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Sgt Lazy Eye
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 1758 Location: Erie, Pennsylvania Gamertag: TheButterViking
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:47 pm
Post subject: How to jump onto the bridge in Palace. |
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Since everybody's complaining about the hanging of enviros I thought this would help move things along a bit. And yes, the quality of the pictures blow, but you get the idea. I took a bit of damage as you can see as stupid Andro was firing blasters at me and all I had were walls.
First, start here at the picture below:
It's behind the tree on the right side (from behind the tree). You are going to be aiming to jump on that little nub next to the tree that used to be a column holding up the bridge. Now, line yourself up and hop onto the railing, like so:
Not that difficult. But this next part is the hardest. Jump straight forward, so you're standing on the column.
Here you can see the protagonist clearly defying the laws of physics. Now, you are going to be aiming for the branch just right of his head in the above picture. Jump on it, and you'll be here:
The only thing left to do is to walk over onto the bridge, like so:
The whole thing takes literally 5 seconds after trying it a few times, but it would be helpful to pack a low cost shelter or something while you attempt to make the short jumps. And there you have it, along with destroying parts of the environment, you can negate any environmental in the game on Palace. Sorry evil cartwheelers, not much you can do. |
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m3atwad
Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 3443
Gamertag: m3atwad 1337
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:54 pm
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| Quote: | | Sorry evil cartwheelers, not much you can do. |
levitate, foo. _________________ officially quit the forums and PD. just remember that erase skills > any other skill, and wheelers > jumpers.
expect to hear from me again when/if the sequel comes out. |
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Sgt Lazy Eye
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 1758 Location: Erie, Pennsylvania Gamertag: TheButterViking
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:56 pm
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| Obviously, but I'm talking about using innate abilities and attacks only, which are in 99% of all arsenals. |
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DarkMage The Master
Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 919
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:13 pm
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Maybe there is a way for cartwheelers to do it, I think there might be. I have found a lot of crazy ways to do what jumpers do.
-DM |
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m3atwad
Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 3443
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:35 pm
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| DarkMage wrote: | Maybe there is a way for cartwheelers to do it, I think there might be. I have found a lot of crazy ways to do what jumpers do.
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cartwheeling across where the bridge used to be on palace is always fun, as is carting over the destroyed metal plates in highway.
ive tried numerous times to cart up the tree, and i've come really damn close. i haven't actually gotten on top, unfortunatly. _________________ officially quit the forums and PD. just remember that erase skills > any other skill, and wheelers > jumpers.
expect to hear from me again when/if the sequel comes out. |
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DevilishPrune
Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 1983
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:50 pm
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| What's to stop cartwheelers from putting it on the breakable part of the bridge and destroying it? Also, it's pretty easy to drop onto the boxes in one of the corners, or wheel onto the box in the debris pile in the middle of the escalators. |
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Sgt Lazy Eye
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 1758 Location: Erie, Pennsylvania Gamertag: TheButterViking
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:06 pm
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| DevilishPrune wrote: | | What's to stop cartwheelers from putting it on the breakable part of the bridge and destroying it? Also, it's pretty easy to drop onto the boxes in one of the corners, or wheel onto the box in the debris pile in the middle of the escalators. |
I said in combination with the destroying of the environment. |
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DevilishPrune
Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 1983
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:14 pm
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| Sgt Lazy Eye wrote: | | DevilishPrune wrote: | | What's to stop cartwheelers from putting it on the breakable part of the bridge and destroying it? Also, it's pretty easy to drop onto the boxes in one of the corners, or wheel onto the box in the debris pile in the middle of the escalators. |
I said in combination with the destroying of the environment. |
Yes, but destroying EVERY usable hang spot is near impossible to do while actually fighting the person. On palace, most boxes and pieces of debris work well, as well as all of the signposts, the signs over the escalators, and the breakable bridge sections. I'm not even gonna start on Highway. The only place that you don't have to worry about is Lane, since nothing breaks there. |
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General Grievous The Imaginary Knight
Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 7197
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:15 pm
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So it stops them from putting it in the middle of the bridge, even though roughly 1% of the people who hang put it there.
Yee-freaking-haw. _________________
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Gasmask Boy lol wut
Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 823
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:07 pm
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| DevilishPrune wrote: | | I'm not even gonna start on Highway. The only place that you don't have to worry about is Lane, since nothing breaks there. |
I suppose, in theory, you could make an enviro really hard to reach if you had jump or skywalk, and put the it on top of one of the middle buildings... _________________
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DevilishPrune
Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 1983
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:14 pm
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| Gasmask Boy wrote: | | DevilishPrune wrote: | | I'm not even gonna start on Highway. The only place that you don't have to worry about is Lane, since nothing breaks there. |
I suppose, in theory, you could make an enviro really hard to reach if you had jump or skywalk, and put the it on top of one of the middle buildings... |
You don't even need Jump or Skywalk to get onto the walls of the highway. You just have to run onto an overpass and jump/airwheel off and land on the wall, then attack the wall, or fall off and break it when you land, and it's hung. To stop a Highway hang, you have to shoot all the breakable floors near the toll booth and along the straight road on the bottom, break all of the walls, break the sign near the small overpass, and break all the small railings on the median. Good luck managing that while fighting the person you're trying to stop from hanging. |
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Gasmask Boy lol wut
Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 823
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:55 pm
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| DevilishPrune wrote: | | You don't even need Jump or Skywalk to get onto the walls of the highway. You just have to run onto an overpass and jump/airwheel off and land on the wall, then attack the wall, or fall off and break it when you land, and it's hung. To stop a Highway hang, you have to shoot all the breakable floors near the toll booth and along the straight road on the bottom, break all of the walls, break the sign near the small overpass, and break all the small railings on the median. Good luck managing that while fighting the person you're trying to stop from hanging. |
Um, I should've been more clear. I was talking about Lane. _________________
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DevilishPrune
Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 1983
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:03 pm
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| Gasmask Boy wrote: | | DevilishPrune wrote: | | You don't even need Jump or Skywalk to get onto the walls of the highway. You just have to run onto an overpass and jump/airwheel off and land on the wall, then attack the wall, or fall off and break it when you land, and it's hung. To stop a Highway hang, you have to shoot all the breakable floors near the toll booth and along the straight road on the bottom, break all of the walls, break the sign near the small overpass, and break all the small railings on the median. Good luck managing that while fighting the person you're trying to stop from hanging. |
Um, I should've been more clear. I was talking about Lane. |
I'm pretty sure all of the middle buildings can be airwheeled onto. |
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Sgt Lazy Eye
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 1758 Location: Erie, Pennsylvania Gamertag: TheButterViking
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:36 pm
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| DevilishPrune wrote: | | Sgt Lazy Eye wrote: | | DevilishPrune wrote: | | What's to stop cartwheelers from putting it on the breakable part of the bridge and destroying it? Also, it's pretty easy to drop onto the boxes in one of the corners, or wheel onto the box in the debris pile in the middle of the escalators. |
I said in combination with the destroying of the environment. |
Yes, but destroying EVERY usable hang spot is near impossible to do while actually fighting the person. On palace, most boxes and pieces of debris work well, as well as all of the signposts, the signs over the escalators, and the breakable bridge sections. I'm not even gonna start on Highway. The only place that you don't have to worry about is Lane, since nothing breaks there. |
Every? How many are there on Palace, 5-7 maybe? You can hit 7 stationary objects right? If you can't then apparently the situation is more dire than I had thought. Highway is a different story, but then again Highway sucks.
| Quote: | So it stops them from putting it in the middle of the bridge, even though roughly 1% of the people who hang put it there.
Yee-freaking-haw.
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You don't play many serious games do you? |
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DevilishPrune
Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 1983
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:56 pm
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| Sgt Lazy Eye wrote: | | DevilishPrune wrote: | | Sgt Lazy Eye wrote: | | DevilishPrune wrote: | | What's to stop cartwheelers from putting it on the breakable part of the bridge and destroying it? Also, it's pretty easy to drop onto the boxes in one of the corners, or wheel onto the box in the debris pile in the middle of the escalators. |
I said in combination with the destroying of the environment. |
Yes, but destroying EVERY usable hang spot is near impossible to do while actually fighting the person. On palace, most boxes and pieces of debris work well, as well as all of the signposts, the signs over the escalators, and the breakable bridge sections. I'm not even gonna start on Highway. The only place that you don't have to worry about is Lane, since nothing breaks there. |
Every? How many are there on Palace, 5-7 maybe? You can hit 7 stationary objects right? If you can't then apparently the situation is more dire than I had thought. Highway is a different story, but then again Highway sucks.
| Quote: | So it stops them from putting it in the middle of the bridge, even though roughly 1% of the people who hang put it there.
Yee-freaking-haw.
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You don't play many serious games do you? |
4 breakable bridge spots (the main and smaller sub section of each side in the middle), 6 sign posts, 2 signs above escalators, 2 box areas, and possibly tables if it's possible to stand on the chairs on the tables to put it down (tables are within reach, but the chairs probably wouldn't be). Plus, you have to get an attack to do all of this with, and take it all down while your opponent is building their hand and possibly attacking you. If they get the environmental before you even get an attack, you're screwed. Even if they don't get it before then, you're gonna have to spend a good 30 seconds breaking stuff while they go through about 2 spawns worth of stuff to build their hand. So try it--play a few games with a competent player. The rules are you have to break every spot the enviro could be hung and still kill them. If you don't you lose. If the arsenal they're playing is even remotely aggressive, it's not gonna happen.
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